mitt romney. >> sean, we had this conversation. look, the middle east has been burning for 2,000 years. >> bill: not like this. >> are you kidding me? beirut, beirut, beirut under reagan. >> bill: he's going to vegas. >> this is like -- look, we have u.s. assets all around the world. every president's had this kind of situation happen much worse than this one. and this president believes you go get the guy -- it's not bravado, you don't say bring it on, you don't send 200,000 troops in. >> bill: why not? there's four americans dead. >> you find them and kill them. that's what happened with osama bin laden on this watch. it's not words or rhetoric. all this is is garbage rhetoric. >> come on, joe! you're defending the indefensible. >> no, i'm not. >> this president has cost us -- >> the bush doctrine -- >> bill: joe, let me the governor finish a sentence. go ahead, governor. >> joe, this is a critical time. this is a part of the world where a transition was taking place. and we should have been there leading it. we should have been